I know when you bet your supposed to calculate the true count, but now most casinos do not keep the discard pile or shoe(rest of the cards) above the table, and you need those to find the true count since you divide the remaining decks from the count you have.
there are many different card counting systems out there. But I can say Hi-Lo is one of the easiest and most used methods.
For a list of strategies and more info on them goto this website.
http://www.qfit.com/card-counting.htm
2, 3, 4 , 5, 6 Count +1
7, 8, 9 Count 0
10, J, Q, K, A Count -1
Would the Hi-Lo card counting system be the best system to use?
This side bet offered in some single-deck games allows you to wager on whether you will be dealt two cards of the same suit. if so, you will be paid 3 to 1; if you are dealt a king and queen of the same suit, you will be paid 10 to 1.
A card counter developed a system for beating this rule a few years ago, which he sold privately for a few months, then took off the market. I examined the system, and also had the theory tested via computer simulation, and it worked! Unfortunately, it was not an easy card counting system, as you had to keep four separate counts of the cards remaining in each suit. Most casinos that offer the Royal Match option restrict the maximum bet, usually to $25. This limitation makes it difficult to make much money with this option, except for camouflage as player advantages do not occur very frequently. Since any Royal Match counting system would prove worthless for all normal playing and betting decisions, it will rarely be worth a player's time or effort to attempt to exploit it. and do not bet on this option, except for camouflage, unless you are using a valid suit-counting system, as the house edge is 3.8%.
Some casinos also offer a multiple-deck version of the Royal Match bet where any first two suited cards pay 2 1/2 to 1, and a suited K-Q pays 25 to 1. This is far worse for the player than the single-deck version—with these multi-deck payouts, the house edge goes up to 6.7%, and no suit-counting system will beat it.
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A balanced card counting system is any system where the point values assigned to the cards balances out. that is, you have as many negative values as positive values. when you count through an entire deck using a balanced system, you start your running count at zero. you expect to end your running count at zero. if you do not reach zero, then you have mis-counted. the oldest and most popular balanced system in the Hi/Lo system.
The drawback to balanced systems is that you must divide the running count by the number of decks remaining to get a “true” count. you wager according to a true count. Any positive value in the true count indicates an advantage for the player. the higher the positive count, the better the advantage. Calculating the true count introduces two additional steps. One, you must perform division on the running count at all times, in your head. two, you must accurately estimate the number of decks remaining in the shoe.
How do you estimate the number of decks remaining in the shoe? First, you must know the number of decks the dealer started with in the shoe. second, you must accurately estimate the number of decks in the discard pile. you practice estimating the number of decks by looking at a stack of face down cards. After some practice, you should become proficient at estimating the number of cards in a pile. Finally, you subtract the remaining decks from initial number of decks to find the decks remaining in the shoe.
Sounds like too much to do? Imagine doing it while trying to keep an accurate count. Plus, you have the dealer pacing the game and he’s not going to wait for you do estimation and division.
Fortunately, there are unbalanced systems. an unbalanced system is a system where the point values do not balance out. when you count through an entire deck with an unbalanced system (and started a running at zero), you would not end a zero. Examples of unbalanced systems include the Red seven Count and the KO Count.
Most unbalanced systems begin at an “Initial Running Count” or IRC. Starting at an IRC other than zero means that the unbalanced system will finish at zero. Using an IRC also means that zero is the pivot point at which the odds change to favor the player. Using an IRC guarantees that a positive count still signals a player advantage.
The main advantage to an unbalanced system is that you don’t need to convert the running count into a true count. an unbalanced system eliminates the division and decks estimate of a balanced count.
The drawback is that unbalanced system sacrifices some accuracy to achieve simplicity. One must remember that a simple system counted correctly is better than a complex system counted incorrectly.
If I was using the regular card counting system in 6 deck casino blackjack where 2,3,4,5,6 are +1…..and 10, J, Q, K, A are -1………..when should I start making the big bets.
Should I wait until the most of the cards (like 100 to 200) have been dealt out….and if the count is good then start making big bets?
Or as soon as the count is in my favor, should I then start making big bets…..regardless of how many cards have been dealt?
Same question, same answer.
It depends on Bankroll, how deep into the shoe you are, and the count. It's too complex to just say, "I'll start making big bets now."
Read a good book. Read it well, and then read it again. Card counting is not an easy thing to do right.
As I said before – you aren't going to get the help you need from this forum.
at my local casino they hand shuffle 6 decks, I was wondering if its still possible to make money counting and what system is best to use in british casino's.. does anyone recommend a book which teaches the system?
Card Counting is only part of it, knowing how to use the information you get is the rest of it.
Here is a link to an article about Blackjack Card Counting: http://www.thedoverpro.com/blackjack/bla…
There are many systems, most of them will work, but not as well as they used to since the casinos changed the rules.
As for buying a book, there is a ton of free information on the Internet, just do a bit of searching,
If you do decide to use a system, practice, practice and practice some more until you learn to do it almost automatically before you try it in a casino.
Good luck!